This is the interview with Weikath I did right after I
interviewed Andi. Michael Weikath was a very talkative guy and did not
mind answering some of the harder questions I asked. He was very good
about answering contraversial stuff as well and gave great details on
everything. He really was a very nice guy with a lot to give and I
enjoyed talking to him as I did Andi. This interview was done on 7/21/98.
Check it out below (I'm Tony Webster BTW).
Tony Webster: I had already talked to Andi about
this when I interviewd him right before you, and he said it was your idea
so can you give me some background on LAUDATE DOMINUM?
Michael Weikath: Yeah well its very simple and
its because we have so many latin fans
Italy, and Spain and Portugal, and Brazil and Argentina....thats at least
the countries we've covered. There's more people in the Honduras, and
Peru and Chile obviously, but we haven't visited these countries yet, and
since the reception has been extraordinary
from these countries I decided to do a sort of thank you track to these
people. There has already been so many songs written for the Japanese
fans of this sort for example the Scorpions have done it and Accept have
done tracks in Japanese for Japanese fans and we didn't want to repeat
that and that doesn't mean that the japanese fans are any less special, I
just wanted to create something strange and in a different language and I
thought latin would be more suitable. I mean at first I wanted to do
something in Latin but I just didn't know what. So I went over my mom's
during christmas and she played me two Laudate Dominum tracks off of
Schubert and of Mozart and so I thought "Yeah thats it!". After that I
sat there with my old Latin teacher and we just concieved the lyrics.
Apart from that I tried to bring some Hayden quality because im quite a
Hayden fan which is to say I didn't rip off any structures of any music he
has done but I tried to create the feel that it could have been done by
him so it could give you a hint about what Hayden sounds like or whatever
because I dont rip off stuff and whenever I do something I try to be as
creative as I can and do it my own way other than just taking a structure
thats already there. So I put in a lot of the things I thought would be
Hayden and the same thing went for Falling Higher and the other stuff you
know...
I intend to do so in the future because you can take some sort of measure
you know to be original because people are being influenced by Bach or
whatever and Hayden is a completely different direction. I like that very
much personially and I try to put something of that quality in my future
songs.
TW: How is the tour with Iron Maiden going?
MW: It was good and its being continued in the
middle of September on a second leg of Europe as for South America we have
to wait and see as I think someone gave me confirmation of some gigs down
there, but its been a reporter and he says he knows a promoter that has
set up gigs for us down there. I have no confirmation on that
though.
TW: I already posted the ones for Europe on my
page.
MW: Really? Great! We also have done some
shows with Black Sabbath and they were really good, in fact they were DAMN
good! They played large stadiums and we were on the bill as well and it
was just very good very good outsome, and in Poland and we even played
before them and it was just marvelous.
TW: What do you think of Maiden and their new
sound...do you like it? What's your opinion.
MW: Lets not say "sound" because I could never
understand what they did on the recent records and I think I would never
understand and if someone did tell me I would understand but nobody tells
me and uhm well apart from that Maiden is still a very good live band but
they cut and hit on the point and theres nothing you can say against them
except sometimes there is a little insecurity of their new singer. Even
though theres been days that i can count that I think he delivered quite a
good performance, but hes obviously insecure about what hes doing. Apart
from that they bring the stuff across. When you stand there and watch it
day by day theres not a lot for you to complain about actually. You sense
that there is something just not quite right there when watching them
though.....
TW: I was wondering what has happened to Roland
and why he hasn't written anything lately?
MW: It was because he had just finished his solo
record by that time and he was kind of confused by that stuff very much.
Entering the studio for Better Than Raw in studio rehearsals he has been
helpful in guitar parts I couldn't do and we were actually sitting there
with 25 tracks and we did a quick look through of what we were going to
put on the record and we had the record finished basicially....all the
tracks were there.. Roland didn't see why he should put out anything
extra since everythying was already there, and he wouldn't have known
where to add or change anything in the album concept we already had. So
there was really no necessity for him to do something....he offered one
track and that was a midtempo track but we couldn't use it for the album
so we just left it the way it was.
TW: Where did you guys get the idea for the album
cover?
MW: Well its the smurf story I told you about.
See Andi and myself hang out at a small little pub thats called "The
Backstage" thats a rock cafe type of thing thats very private and very
small and we hang out there for coffee and mineral water and its where we
try to get rid of our usual thoughts so then you drink coffee, mineral
water and the occasional martini, and you just think and talk a load of
crap there. We know the shop owner and we know the bar ladies and its a
very private place for us, and thats where we usually develop our stupid
cover ideas. We had the idea about the smurfs and gargamel and the
characters were replaced by the sexy witch and the pumpkins.
TW: Yeah.....Andi said he wanted an ugly witch
and you wanted a sexy one.
MW: *laughs* I wanted a sexy one because it
would have been too obvious with an old ugly witch *laugh* and it would
have been like uhhhh Angel Witch or whatever like damn like cliche and
nothing new. So like I try and create a new riff I created a new witch
because its more obvious its a witch then the idea was to take a sexy one
so it looks more modern and I like it a bit more.
TW: Yeah so do I
MW: Yeah....its just to optimize the impact,
thats what I'm always after.
TW: You guys had the Pumpkin Box come out in
Japan and are you guys going to come out with a second one from the Andi
Deris era?
MW: Yes....there will be a second part of it,
but I dont know what tracks will be on it but this will be chosen by the
Japanese and they will come up with the tracklist. They will give it to
us and we will decide if these are the tracks that we want there and if
there are any other tracks that we think should be on there. It was done
the same way with the current Pumpkin Box out now so that will be the part
two then. Yeah there will be something in the future then. Im eager to
see what its going to look like.
You gotta understand that in Japan there were people that grew up and they
were not so concerned about Helloween and JVC had tried to get these
people to make em aware that Helloween is around and what its all about,
and for them its great to have a best of Helloween record set or so to say
that the way they did the Pumpkin Box may be the best way to do a "best
Of" of "Greatest Hits" of something. So a lot of younger people got aware
of what we are and who we are and they have to connect us to the ongoing
career. Since they now have the Pumpkin Box they now know where to
continue on with the actual records we are doing now. It may not be
worthwile for everyone else in the world who alrteady have all of the
Helloween records out there, but it was good for these people.
TW: You know....I like the Pumpkin Box....I
imported it, and I really liked the way it was set up.
MW: Thats good.....its just that the booklet falls apart too easily...
TW: You know metal in the USA obviously isn't as
big as it is over in Japan and Germany or anything like that, and thats
due largely due to MTV saying that "Metal Sucks", "Metal Is Dead", Blah
blah blah blah. They told a lot of bands that, like Dave Mustaine for
example and told him that "Metal is dead, we wont play metal videos
anymore.
MW: I haven't heard about it but I just saw a
quote on paper, and thats because one of the reviews for Better Than Raw
includes that quote and so I was suprised. Anyways we dont need MTV for
this and I think its good that Headbanger's Ball went off the air because
its so opinionized and it was going the wrong direction. Theres lots of
people here in America that want to listen to proper hard rock and they
are very aware of what they want. They just arent being directed the way
they used to be so right now they will have to find a different channel to
communicate with each other to create a forum again and to have a scene
again. Im pretty confident and very positive that it will happen very
soon.....its just like everybody's quite mixed up right now nobody knows
whats going on. This is quite understandable since a lot of bands that
you would expect to come out with good records didn't come out with one.
That doesn't help the situation either......anyways I think there will be
stuff and it will go on and it will end up starting a renaissance of the
whole thing and thats the way I look upon the whole thing, because
everything goes in circles. If people were pissed off with what was going
down so they want to have another one and there will be one I'm pretty
sure.
TW: I wanted to ask you a questrion about one of
your B-sides.....One of the Chameleon singles..."Step Out Of Hell". What
was the whole idea behind the tracks "Intruduction" and "Get Me Out Of
Here"?
MW: Well with the Introduction I actually wanted
to create some kind of Spianl Tappish impact like a German rock star who
has lost track of reality and also I wanted to take some shit out on some
people i knew. Which is more or less a private way to take it out on
them, so it was basicially fun. During that time I was so unhappy with
many things and I was not behind the whole Helloween thing because I
thought we were going in the wrong direction, and well being in that
situation I just wanted to have some fun. There's some bootleg videos you
can watch from shows in Japan where I behave very odd, and still I played
my stuff but it was quite obvious that I wasn't with the thing or with the
game and this was merely aggression in between Michael Kiske and me with
fronts being built up inside the band with different camps that made the
whole time very hard for everyone. Especially for me in particular and
Michael Kiske as well. Then I tended to do a lot of stupid stuff to
irritate him or anyone else. and thats how the "Introduction" came about
and the whole song [Get Me Out Of Here]. Funny thing is that Michael
Kiske liked "Get Me Out Of Here" so much that he said I should always
write stuff like it.....even for albums. And I said "Yeah well thats
taking it a little bit to far maybe" and he said "Why?" , and I said " Cuz
we simply cant do it...so lets close the subject please". I mean he may
have had a point but on the other hand I'm quite happy that its on the
b-side. I also took a lot of shit because of the song "Heavy Metal
Hamsters" which was intended on being a b-side for the Pink Bubbles album
and instead it ended up being an album track. About Step Out of
Hell.....it was one of the older tracks Roland had done with his old band
Rampage. Which was released originially as a track called "Victims Of
Rock". So he changed the lyrics and he remade it as a song with
Helloween. The lyrics obviously dealt with Ingo.....
TW: So thats what it was about?
MW: Partwise.....I mean in general views and
general thinking......but focused on Ingo maybe...
TW: Speaking of Ingo......what disease did he
have?
MW: He was Schizophrenic...ever since his birth.
They found out during the drug treatment he had to undergo and so it was
like hes had some cocaine, and some dope....and some alcohol and that had
a final effect on his brain so to speak. That doesn;t go well with while
you;re being Schizophrenic. The thing is with alcohol you can postpone
the main effects of being Schzophrenic for quite some time but it will
always show up again around your 30s, so you need treatment and proper
treatment because its a very serious illness......very complicated and
heavy one and hard to cure if at all.....some people say its not curable.
Thats actually what happened to him so life must have become such burden
to him so I told him that the situation was he wasn't going to play with
the band anymore if I couldnt make the choice and the others merely sat
there and thought the same stuff. I merely had to sit it out with him for
about 5 or 6 hours. I kept saying no and he wanted to get back in and I
still had to say no because it would have killed him anyways. He wasn;t
as sane as he wanted to make us think and because he didnt realize his own
serious situation. he didnt take his medication either which he
should've. Then one day he jumped in front of s subway train....
TW: Thats a sad story.....
MW: Yeah....
TW: Do you guys have any friendly relations with
Michael Kiske?
MW: Not yet.....although Roland saw him in a
music store awhile back and they talked for about a half an hour. Other
than that we have had really no contact with him since he left.
TW: You know there's been a lot of stuff going
around....a lot of bullshit people have been saying about
you....
MW: You know its like outside people.....they
always have to say quite a bit...well they should have been in the band at
that time...otherwise they should just shut the fuck up.
TW: I remember there was a guy on the your turn
board accusing you of stuff....remember him?
MW: Yeah....I do.....that guy was a fucking
idiot.
TW: You know....I get a lot of people asking me
shit about it and I'm always like look..."You werent there Weikath and
Kiske couldnt work together so just leave it at that you know what I'm
saying?"
MW: Yes....I actually remember your comments on
that on the board if i'm not mistaken......
TW: So you;re coming out of the Chameleon
era....how good of an addition was Andi to the band. How crucial was his
role in the band at first?
MW: Oh well he kind of put the whole thing back
in order as well because he was the sole one we wanted in the band. We
certainly werent going out to place adds that Helloween was looking for a
new singer cuz we wouldnt trust anyone. The thing that happend in the
misunderstanding that went down with Michael Kiske, me and the rest of the
band was so heavy that we really didnt feel like inviting someone we dont
know into the band to sing. We thought we wouldve laid us another koo
koo's act if you know that term.....and so if not for Andi joining
Helloween we would have dissolved the band probably. We wouldve done
something else....and we would have waited the whole thing out, but
anyways we would have dissolved the whole thing if he hadnt have come in.
Anyways it was plain clear to everyone in the band we didnt want to go off
with Michael Kiske for the next record. The main issue......thoughts were
going quite far you know?
TW: How did you get Andi into the band....I mean
where did you
find him at?
MW: Well I called him up....but ive already
known him for 7 years. I already had permission to approach him during
the Pink Bubbles Go Ape era and I already called him by that time. because
the situation in the band had become so unbearable. Ingo was the one who
actually wanted to stay with Michael Kiske and Andi for himself actually
wanted to stay with "Pink Cream 69" because he saud there was no reason
why I should leave the guys because they are behaving well, they are nice
guys and we have a nice band here. Andi is a very social guy....we all
knew at the time he was the perfect choice for Helloween. He also said
there was no way out because of the situation in his band was going
similar...so we had a paralell thing going. Helloween was going down and
Pink Cream was as well. I think I placed the call at just the perfect
point in time, but still I thought I sounded pretty stupid because I was
like "If you're not going to sing for us we're going to end the whole
Helloween thing....so think about it. However if we go out there with you
as our singer we can go out there and put this stuff into people;'s faces
and just kill. You know?? Think of it? So we had 2 or 3 more meeting to
convince him or convince him further and he just didnt want to say
anything that particular year because it was a shitty year and he wants
to make his decision next year, and that was like new years eve. So 3
minutes after 12 new years eve the next year he calls up and says
"Alright....I'm in". So and thats when we gave Michael Kiske a call and
said we wanted a meeting and he said "A meeting again? What for?!" and I
said well its "Something important" and he said "We have so many meetings
we dont need that, just do your meeting and tell me what its about". Our
personal manager said "Well its about you Michael" and so that meeting
didnt even take place because then it was plain clear.
TW: Can you tell me the whole situation with
Noise Records? About breaking the contract and everything?
MW: Well that was a complete mess up but this
didnt inflict the trouble onto the band it was just like the different
characters we have and they wouldnt fit. Well the other thing with Noise
records came to me as a natural thing because my parents were always at
court ever since I could think. So some people in the band were afraid
because they didnt like the thought of being in court with anyone and for
me it was natural and I just wanted to get out of the contract you
know.....
TW: Do you think that after the whole situation
aftter not being able to release anything for 2 years kind of hurt your
fanbase in the USA?
MW: Well I dont know and I dont wanna think like
that.....If it did Im not aware of it. It was more or less Kai Hansen and
me....we reached double as much people cuz theres a polarity between him
and me because hes a differrent guy and I'm a different. So when you put
the Gamma Ray fans and the Helloween fans together you have the contigency
of what Helloween used to be. I think "Somewhere Out In Space" is a very
good record
TW: I do too.
MW: It has a really good groove and the feel is
just right and I think Daniel is responsible for that partly and Henjo as
well and so Kai Hansen came to think of something else because the setup
in Gamma Ray before wasnt that healthy really with the old bass player and
the drummer....they werent exactly convinced of the whole project they
were just merely playing there. They were taking the money and doing
their jobs but they werent really convinced of Gamma Ray and so Daniel hes
just a very heartfelt guy and hes very behind the whole thing because he
has a heart, and hes like a Gamma Ray fan. The other ones werent believe
it or not....and then there were like situations in dealing with Kai
Hansen and with the way he is there are always reasons that they dont get
along with each other too well its not to say that its Hansen's
fault...its like different types of people just not getting along....you
know? It wasnt the most lucky lineup they had before with "Insanity &
Genius" and all of that. They are great records but the setup in the band
wasn't perfect, it wasn;t natural and it wasnt exactly
well....it didnt fit....the characters in the band didnt match perfectly.
TW: Ok....Im sure you have heard of
this.....there was an article in terrorizer which has you guys being
badmouthed about Max Cavalera....
MW: Oh yah....thats right....what's the ground
for what he says you know? I don't understand what he says....I mean there
was two different camps in metal and hard rock ever since it was born its
like the good and the evil or the black and the white and so Sepultura and
he have a total different understanding of it. It reminds me of some
trouble I had with some guys from Kreator some 10 years ago and I dont get
it. I mean what we are doing is what we and this band as heavy metal
have created....and if Cavalera thinks different he stands for a diffreent
field right? I mean I wouldnt go and say Sepultura are worsening the
metal situation because they are not melodic or because they are so
antisocial or something or because they are so aggressive....who am I to
say that? I try to find something positive about Sepultura and Soulfly
and all of this and whi am I to judge what they do? I think Cavalera
should be quite happy because you know he has done some good work and has
had a lot of success. I mean...I dont understand his reaction. He must
be very fixed on certain things and hes not exactly cool with it.....I
dont know what hes all about.....I have no idea....
TW: A friend of mine has interviewed a few German
bands and they basicially say its "Ignorant".
MW: Well I think its very narrowminded, and I
think its like maybe he didnt earn as much as he was suppossed to....I
dont know because I know what he means. Metal has always been commercial
and theres nothing with writing nice melodies....then he should slack UFO,
Rainbow or Judas Priest and everyone.....maybe he wants to do that...I
dont know.
TW: Speaking of Priest......what do you think of
the new singer?
MW: Well I dont know.....I mean I dont like the
record, but then I heard the concerts went down pretty well and that
Ripper owens is just like the perfect replacement for Rob Halford and I
dont know because I havent witnessed a show yet. I didnt feel like that
because on that particular evening when they were in Hamburg because I had
a chance to be out with a girl I like so Id rather do that. Ive been told
later on that Ripper sang perfectly. What I have to criticize is on the
record he doesnt use any vibrato or anything and this is just like
clinical that comes across, and he sounds just like any other American
shouter and he sang for whoever so what he actually lacks on the record is
profile personality because he doesnt sound like anyone special......so
actually I havent witnessed any shows and if I see a show and like it
then I will withdraw from anything I've said.....but up to this point I
can say that I dont like the record.
TW: One of your B-Sides.....the song
Rain.....who originially did that song?
MW: Oh! That was done by Status Quo! They had
an album called "Blue For You"...I think it was 1975 and 1976 and it was
quite a hit in Germany and Japan because Status Quo was the band by that
time and AC/DC hadnt gotten big yet and so to say they were the big rockin
blues band at that time so to speak. Like Metallica....like everyone who
would play guitar then would start playing Status Quo riffs and we just
wanted to play that and everybody thought it was going to be fun. You
know you cant copy Status Quo.....it doesnt sound the least like status
quo it sounds like some White Lion version so we used the same amps and
the same guitars and we rehearsed the whole shit and still it didnt sound
like Status Quo and usually we succeed in doing something that say "Cold
Sweat" for example....I really liked that and Electric Eye went damn well
but Rain doesnt sound like Status Quo I dont think still.
TW: I wanted to ask....the instrumental
"Magnetic Fields" what band did that?
MW: Thats a French synthesizer guy named Jean
MichelJarre who did that one....
TW: Do you get along with all the other German
bands?
MW: Oh yeah we're happy enough now that there is
no more envy towards us that was around about 10 years before. See theres
no reason to talk bad about anyone because right now nobody feels like the
other is stealing anyone else's ground which is good..
and if that happens then obviously we sort it out.
TW: I have a few emails from people in Portugal
asking if you guys will come back since you were hit by something a person
in the crowd threw at you.
MW: Sure...I mean we played there before and
nobody had thrown anything at me before and so this time someone threw
something at me. I mean maybe this person thought I was acting too lazy
or arrogant or whatever....at least he didnt like me or thought I caused
Ingo's death...I dont know what the person thought....anyways he didnt
like the way I was. For the money you spend to get into concerts....you
come to see us the way we are so Im not going to bow to people like
that....Im just the way I am and these people are getting the possibility
to witness it by paying the money for it. Im not going to change my
behavior in anyway because thats what he wanted...you know?
TW: A lot of people emailed me asking why you
guys dont do more older stuff and that they wanted to hear Andi's
renditions of them.
MW: Yeah.....thats true but wed end up playing
for like 3 hours and everything left aside from what we're doing right now
at the concert is a nice setup of tracks....if we do older stuff...someone
would complain about something else. The problem here is that if we play
older songs the only guy who gets the money for it is Kai...and we dont
want to support that guy anymore because hes already earned enough money
from us. Roland is not the least affiliated with that stuff because he
hasnt been around. When I say "I want to play "Starlight", "Murderer".
Roland would go like "Oh god I have to play all of this" and I cant blame
him because you would inflict stress on himself. It would give Roland a
hard time.....not Andi a hard time....he can sing old tracks but then
Roland would be faced to some heavy guitarwork and for what?
TW: Why did Kai leave the band?
MW: Well there were several reasons....I think he
felt he had no ground left in Helloween that Kiske and myself had
different opinions and that was stressful to Kai. He also said that all
the promo stuff we had to do really pissed him off because he would like
to have a less stressful go at things in general. You can follow that in
the Gamma Ray history....you know they dont tour that much and do a huge
amount of promotion because thats exactly his aim....he doesnt want to do
as much as he had to with Helloween he also had some trouble with all the
band....because he mentioned that topic right when we did Walls Of Jericho
and he said "You know....cant we just tour a little less" and was told by
management "Why dont you just go play for another band!" He took the
burden for it...but in time he said well....We had so many different
opinions going on I was actually quite happy when he left even though you
know we said we may as well become friends even though we're not in a band
together anymore, but then its always a heavy thing and he has his point
of view and he has to follow his career and I have to follow mine. When
we sat together at one UFO concert and I can tell you that were some real
big question marks on a lot of faces of the fans and it was like to them
"Wow, whats going on here?". Its just normal and you just talk to each
other....
TW: Have you yourself ever thought of making a
solo album?
MW: Well Ive already gotten the money to do a
solo record so I have to do a solo record.
TW: One last thing...are you guys going to
record or make a documentary type video with videos from the band and a
history etc....
MW: We did something sort of like that its called
the pumpkin video...
TW: Yeah...I have it.
MW: Good....because its a good collection of
videos being done up to the point of time when it was released. I think
it ends with "Where The Rain Grows" or something....
TW: Yeah it does.
MW: Well if thats in the making in the future it
would have to be a major thing. I mean we dont have as many videos as we
did then and the Pumpkin Video already covers most of the videos...so well
have to wait a little more. Im not too keen on covering the old
lineup...we're actually living now and we have something to create for
us...and Uli and Roland and for Helloween the way we are right now. If a
video of us and a documentary is going to be done then id rather put it
into two parts to be fair....fair to the old Helloween and fair to the new
Helloween you know?
TW: Well thanks for calling, I appreciate it!
Hope to see you in the states sometime!
MW: Where are you again?
TW: Cleveland.
MW: Oh yah....I remember it....I knew a few
people there way back. It was great talking to you....hope you have a
nice day. By the way.....tell all the fans that even
though I do not answer all my email.....I still read them.
This interview done by Officer Metal aka Tony Webster DO NOT USE
WITHOUT PERMISSION (C)1998 M.A.P.A.R.