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Interview with

Tonka/Powercage drummer, Yngve Jacobsen

Yngve's contributions to metal are a-plenty. When I first came into contact with him in 2000, he had his Odd-Metal band Tonka going strong, then he sent his side project, Powercage's 3-song demo to me (with a very Seven Witches, Dio, Iron Maiden, early Scorpions feel), and most recently, he is operating his very own fanzine! Busy man he must be. So after 2 years, I finally decided, "hey! why not interview him?". Here's what we had to say...

Interview by - Erik Chrupalyk.

U.F.-First off, I really want to say 'thank you' for doing the interview, and just for sending the material of your two bands Tonka, and Powercage, and also for the most recent issue (and first English-version) of 'The Metal Underground' 'zine. Oh yeah, thank you!

Y.J.-That was my pleasure Erik! It is a pleasure knowing you! For me sending you those items didnīt cost me anything but some postage, but the fact that you stay so supportive and that you appreciate some or all of it, makes it all worth wile. The amount of metal-related friends in the U S of A have really started to increase these last years, so I basically want to reply your thanks with one big salute back....

U.F.-Have things been picking up for the band (Tonka) since "...This Present Darkness..."? I believe I actually reviewed that one (or a demo-version of the album, was it?) here at U.F.

Y.J.-Yeah! And a great review that was too! In fact I use it both on my web info page and also itīs posted on the Metal Age Productions page as well. (Tonka's label) Things are always happening in the Tonka camp...but as ourselves, they tend to happen in slow motion. We have at last seen the release of the world wide release of "...This Present Darkness..." on M.A.P., due in april I think, and also the second album is under construction as we speak. Itīs to be called "Beasts Of Soil And Burden" and will hopefully get a within-the-year release if everything goes as planned. We are about to do some live stuff, and hit the studio in the end of may. Our guitarist suddenly decided to take two weeks in Thailand, so weīll probably start recording some time right after heīs home.... Musically itīs going to be heavier and more uptempo. We felt for some speed riffs as the Tonka tunes usually arrive in the mid tempo style. But be sure we will stay dark, heavy, melodic and positive. And we may add some moody synth chords under the songs to darken the wholeness of the songs. Promotionally speaking, the band has never been stronger. I have pushed the band throughout the underground for many years and it is starting to pay off. Positive feedback and true fans of the band replies both through post and e-mail. I havenīt got a clue on how many cdīs I have sent out, but Iīll bet the amount is pretty scary.

U.F.-Are the other members in Tonka comfortable with you being in your side-project, Powercage?

Y.J.-If they have any thoughts or opinions on it, they would never tell me. I started Powercage together with a friend of mine, Vegard Lima back in....1999 I believe. This was just planned as a get together for the pure metallic pleasure. But as the weeks and months went , we actually got some recordings done. This is the "2001 E.P." you received. Production-wise it could have been way better, but as it turned out, I feel it has done itīs duty. At this level, I would never quit any of the bands over another. The reason for doing that would have to be a different one.....stress, lack of sleep maybe?

U.F.-You mentioned to me that Powercage will soon be recording their first full-length and that labels have showed interest. Are you trying to keep things more personal by doing the independant release thing, or are you hoping to get signed? I think Sanctuary Records (owned and operated by Rod Smallwood and Bruce Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson.) would be interested, as Powercage definetly have been influenced by Iron Maiden.

Y.J.-I guess it all boils down to how you view the situation. Yes, we are about to record a full length record. And this will take place at the same location as last time. I have to say that promoting the releases myself is what I like to do. But if Sanctuary was showing interest, I canīt say it would have been something I was just gonna throw away. But as I mentioned, it all comes down to how the situation is being handled. I obtain a true and genuine underground attitude with no plans of selling my soul to any record label suddenly telling me what to do. I totally believe in the free spirit of metal, and itīs no secret this is somewhat lacking when dealing with the major companies. Too many bands kills on their self financed, independent releases and then...when they are picked up by a label, both the music and the image changes. Coincidence? I donīt think so. But this isnīt news Iīm flashing here. It happens all the time. When the metal wave started to develop again back in 96-97, even Hammerfall kicked ass! But along the road the labels see the chance to earn some easy money by signing every band that moves who claims trueness to metal. There's more to metal than some double bassdrums, dueling guitars and high pitch screams. A real and honest attitude towards it is also a must. But of course the aforementioned elements are important. But itīs not enough! And yes we are Iron Maiden fans. I personally see the two first offerings with Di'anno as the ultimate Maiden albums, but the Bruce era also rocks....especially the first three-four oneīs. I liked Bruce a lot more when he did time in Samson though.

U.F.-What made you decide to be in the music industry in the first place?

Y.J.-Hmmmm.....I donīt know. Iīm not sure Iīm in the industry at all. But if you mean doing the 'zine, spending time in bands etc....I guess it always has been a major part of my life. I started to get into metal back in 1979 when Kiss took all my time. Within a year, the NWOBHM came thundering into my life. Raven, Jaguar, Hellanbach, Diamond Head....those were the days. And since then it has been about metal. Of course I like other musical genres as well, but metal is in my blood. I collect metal vinyl on a fanatical level and canīt get enough. All these years of metal has made me into a dedicated fan getting real angry when I read about bands being ripped off by corporate idiots. This is why I donīt want to support the industry too much. Rather kings in the underground that a nobody supporting the wallets of the rippers! Sorry for loosing the thread all the time...

U.F.-What do you consider to be the 5 greatest Heavy Metal albums of all time, and why? Now how about Non-Metal albums? Top 5 drummers of all time?

Y.J.-This is torture man! I havenīt got a clue which one to name as the top five. But if you need to know, I will try.... As Ronnie James Dio is one of my all time vocalists, Iīll have to put the majestic "Rising" from 75 on top. This one kills! So heavy, so melodic and yet so beautiful. One of my desert island records. Second one is going to be an Accept release. This band has been amongst my favorites since my early years as a metalhead; "Restless And Wild". Man, if you listen to "Fast As A Shark" youīll understand what started Speed Metal. No Metallica or nothing without these Sollingen dudes. ...which brings us to the third spot; "Kill 'Em All". When that record came out, I believe there were many not knowing what to think. I mean, we had Jaguar, Motorhead and these kind of furious bands, but no one had seen or heard such a statement of brutality...ever! Not even the band themselves has topped this one. Not getting into what I feel about the present version....Fourth is going to be a NWOBHM one. As I love so many bands within this era, I will have to pick one speaking for all of them....here goes; "The White Album" by Diamond Head. Not because it is the best, but because it kind of have that great attitude and rebellion thing present. I personally have most of my favorites amongst the so called never-made-it bands which rarely released more than a 7". Black Axe, Mendes Prey...those kind of bands. Fifth place is the tough one. To show I also obtain a soft side, I will put the debut from the german kings of melodic heavy rock; Zeno, down as #5. Non-Metal is also a hard one. I love 70īs prog, some dark pop music (Nick Cave, Chris Isaak...) and the one artist I range the highest of them all; Elvis Presley. 5. Let love in by Nick Cave, 4. Änglagaard "Hybris" (a too good to be true release from this swedish progkings), 3. Everything with Elvis when he was fat and full of pills....this is the era I feel he did the best material, 4. Starsailors "Love is here" (I actually discovered this band way before the hype...), 5. Landberk "Riktigt Äkta" (another unbelievable swedish progband...Iīll copy them for you if you like Erik!) Top Drummers isnīt too hard as I never really been into that idolizing of musicians. But there have been someone shaping me as a drummer. The ultimate one is dead; Cozy Powell, then thereīs my all time favorite when it comes to fills and hard hitting attitude; Vinny Appice, Lars Ulrich was very important for me when I started out; I played in a techno thrash outfit back in 89, then we have the sickest of the thrash lot; Ventor from Kreator. Listen to the "Extreme Aggression" album and youīll see what I am talking about. And then there is a tie between John Bonham and Ian Paice. Sorry.

U.F.-Being based in Norway, do you find it hard doing what you're doing stylatistically, considering Black Metal is big over there, as you aren't into much Black Metal (Venom fan? Yes? No? Just checkin'... )?

Y.J.-I was a Venom fan back in 82 and some years to follow, but looking back, I donīt feel I left too much behind. The image and the really bad musical performance is something I grew away from. Being located in Norway with all of this blackish music is both positive and negative. I get a lot of reactions from Tonka traders telling me that it is nice to receive a Norwegian album not dwelling in darkness, terrible screams, barbwire guitar sound and impossible to read logos. But as I know many of the bands, I feel itīs kind of hard for me to sit here slagging them off. Because some of them are genuine and hardworking dudes giving what they got and with true dedication. But personally I donīt find anything appealing in this form of metal. The most extreme bands I can listen to is Kreator, Death etc...I have to understand the lyrics; thatīs the one thing I need before giving it even a chance.

U.F.-Do you see Metal going through a rehashing period, or do you think it's going to be more pioneering in these next 10 or so years?

Y.J.-Iīm not exactly sure on where you want me to go with this one, but Iīll give it a try. Itīs really hard to say as the market is so packed with copycats and wannabies these days. But if we will see some pioneering Iīm sure of. In retrospect though I feel these last ten years of metal have been pretty much a waste. Donīt get me wrong; I love many of the bands, but I am not sure it has benefited the metal in general. Itīs great to see the old heroes, in spite of some really bad comebacks, get some credit, but all in all I feel we could easily done without the nineties regarding metal. Was I too hard Erik? (Nope, I totally agree- - -Erik)

U.F.-Would you consider taking Tonka or Powercage to play the states?

Y.J.-Of course! But then itīs the money problem. I havenīt got the cash to finance it from my own pocket, but if I had, you would have seen me thrashing your neighborhood in the future, that is for sure. As Tonka is signed to an independent label, there isnīt much resources to spend on touring etc...but if the chance ever arrives, you better have some place for us to crash. And this also counts for you. My home is your's. (you're welcome anytime bro!- - - Erik)

U.F.-Were you in any bands prior to either?

Y.J.-Yes. I did time in a thrash band going by the name of Salemīs Lot. We released two demos; one in 91 and one in 92. Mekong Delta, Kreator, Midas Touch and that kind of bands was the foundation of the band. It dissolved back in the mid nineties and then Tonka was the next step.

U.F.-Being a 'zine editor yourself, what other 'zines out there do you pour into? I actually think your's is a lot better than the majority I've seen. The best layout and paper!

Y.J.-Thanx for the kind words Erik! In fact, me and my wife are real nature lovers and tries to choose stuff not participating in destroying the beautiful planet earth. (? I was referring to how the paper is thick and doesn't tear easily, but yeah! Trees are METAL! - - -Erik) And therefor the 'zine is printed on environmental paper. Layout wise I havenīt got a clue. I started doing datastuff just a couple of years ago and pick up new elements and stuff each day. And it will get better. I have these great artists included for the next one..and the one after that; Paul Di'anno, Saviour Machine, Kreator, Doro, Skullview, Metal Church, Twisted Tower Dire (mega killer band!!!!)....so this is a zine to follow. Bands; send stuff to me. (Every chance I get...) Regarding what zines I read myself...man there are so many, but the diamonds are Snakepit, Metal Rules Magazine, Leather Knights (Rip...??or what Nate?), Scream (Norwegian zine), Metalized (danish), Close Up (swedish), Battle Helm, Knights of Sunrise, Den Of Iniquity, Eternity, Singing Swords, Tarkus (prog zine), Iron Pages, From the underground...and some web zines. I prefer the paper ones over the webs any day. (HEY! haha it's okay, I agree - - -Erik)

U.F.-How do you feel about 'religious' bands who base lyrics and artwork around Satanism or Christian-beliefs?

Y.J.-I feel itīs ok as long as everyone respects eachother. I am myself a Christian, (and still friends with all these Satanic Black Metal bands from Norway??? - - -Erik) and whatever I do, playing in bands, going to work, sleeping...it is the essence of my personality. But in Tonka we are focused on the music. The lyrics are positive as the vocalist also share the same belief. But the band isnīt profiled as a Christian one because the fact of not everyone being so. However; I feel it is very important staying positive and supportive of those less fortunate than ourselves. Regardless of religion I know men are positive deep down. Everyone enjoys getting presents, smiles, hugs, confirmations of being loved....so why strive for the opposite; death and darkness, dwelling in negativity, hate and non-respect for fellow humans? I donīt know, but everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that. There is a shame that the metal scene is mainly seen as a negative form of music. Because youīll find as many great and positive bands around. But they arenīt as good saleswise for the media I guess....

U.F.-What non-musical hobbies do you have?

Y.J.-I have none. I collect vinyls, 'zines and metal items in general, two bands, zine and I work, I am at the moment starting to build a new house, I have a family, friends....I guess there isnīt time for none metallic hobbies....

U.F.-Well, thanks for completing this interview, I wish both bands and your 'zine all the luck in the world! Take care, and congrats once again on the child!

Y.J.-Thanx Erik for giving me the opportunity to promote my doings. And my son is growing up to become a true metalhead. He comes running everytime I put a record on...and especially Kreator. Final words; Something good came out of the later Metallica stuff; your add in So What! which linked us. All the best Erik! And I pretty much blew out all there is within the interview, so I will have to end it by thanking you for taking the time to do this intie, and I wish you and everyone else involved in U.F. a great time and remember to stay hardīn heavy; - - -Yngve

My address, for those of you not scared away already, is:

Yngve M. Jacobsen

Plommeveien 1a

4635 Kristiansand S

Norway

E-mail yjmetal@frisurf.no

web info page http://yjmetal.8m.com

Be sure to check out the "Links of metal" page...are you interested in getting linked Erik?

DISCOGRAPHY

TONKA - This Present Darkness (????)

POWERCAGE - EP (2001)

POWERCAGE - ...A Slave Under Sworded Affluence (200?)

LINKS

OFFICIAL SITE